Amen! I believe, by faith, that Jesus turned all that water at Cana into chilled, refreshing Welch’s grape juice. Behold the Scriptural proof, and notice how “Welch’s grape juice” now makes the best contextual sense of this short passage (Jn 2:9-10):
When the steward of the feast tasted the water now become wineWelch’s grape juice, and did not know where it came from (though the servants who had drawn the water knew), the steward of the feast called the bridegroom and said to him, “Every man serves the good wineWelch’s grape juice first; and when men have drunk freely, then the poor wineWelch’s grape juice; but you have kept the good wineWelch’s grape juice until now.”
Sounds legit.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
If Jesus and the disciples are drinking “wine” it’s grape juice…..if there is drunkenness or warnings associated with “wine” it’s alcohol. Thomas Bramwell Welch (1825–1903) was also a Levite too!
"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan
It does not use the word wine. Even if it did, “wine” is used in the Bible and ancient literature to refer to both alcoholic grape juice and nonalcoholic grape juice. And, they had various ways to provide nonalcoholic wine at any time of the year.
The Bible instead uses the words “cup” and “fruit of the vine” in reference to the Lord’s Supper.
Yet, some insist the wine had to be alcoholic. You can interpret it that way, but keep in mind it is only an interpretation.
One of several ways ancients provided nonalcoholic wine for the Lord’s Supper and other occasions:
Then Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand; and I took the grapes and pressed them into Pharaoh’s cup, and placed the cup in Pharaoh’s hand.” -Genesis 40:11
“Non-alcoholic drinks are not new. There is evidence that they existed as far back as ancient Egypt.” -New York Times; 1992
“Some even who presented no other wine at the sacrament of the Lord’s cup but what they pressed out of the cluster of grapes.” -Cyprian
“Bring ye also as an offering holy bread, and, having pressed three clusters from the vine into a cup, communicate with me, as the Lord Jesus showed us how to offer up when He rose from the dead on the third day.” -Acts and Martyrdom of Matthew
“One my squeeze the juice of a bunch of grapes into a cup and say the ‘Kiddush’” -Jewish Encyclopedia
The ancient grape harvest lasted six months and “good keeping” grapes, stored properly, would last for a year or more.
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Amen! I believe, by faith, that Jesus turned all that water at Cana into chilled, refreshing Welch’s grape juice. Behold the Scriptural proof, and notice how “Welch’s grape juice” now makes the best contextual sense of this short passage (Jn 2:9-10):
Sounds legit.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
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Whoa! You’ve just opened up a can of worms. (or a can of grape juice)
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If Jesus and the disciples are drinking “wine” it’s grape juice…..if there is drunkenness or warnings associated with “wine” it’s alcohol. Thomas Bramwell Welch (1825–1903) was also a Levite too!
"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan
NewCup, Fruit of the Vine
When the Bible speaks of the Lord’s Supper:
It does not use the word wine. Even if it did, “wine” is used in the Bible and ancient literature to refer to both alcoholic grape juice and nonalcoholic grape juice. And, they had various ways to provide nonalcoholic wine at any time of the year.
The Bible instead uses the words “cup” and “fruit of the vine” in reference to the Lord’s Supper.
Yet, some insist the wine had to be alcoholic. You can interpret it that way, but keep in mind it is only an interpretation.
David R. Brumbelow
NewOne of several ways ancients
One of several ways ancients provided nonalcoholic wine for the Lord’s Supper and other occasions:
Then Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand; and I took the grapes and pressed them into Pharaoh’s cup, and placed the cup in Pharaoh’s hand.” -Genesis 40:11
“Non-alcoholic drinks are not new. There is evidence that they existed as far back as ancient Egypt.” -New York Times; 1992
“Some even who presented no other wine at the sacrament of the Lord’s cup but what they pressed out of the cluster of grapes.” -Cyprian
“Bring ye also as an offering holy bread, and, having pressed three clusters from the vine into a cup, communicate with me, as the Lord Jesus showed us how to offer up when He rose from the dead on the third day.” -Acts and Martyrdom of Matthew
“One my squeeze the juice of a bunch of grapes into a cup and say the ‘Kiddush’” -Jewish Encyclopedia
The ancient grape harvest lasted six months and “good keeping” grapes, stored properly, would last for a year or more.
David R. Brumbelow