I don’t know which I favor, but when I decide, anyone not on my side will be apostate. And because he is apostate, there is no need to concern myself with unity.
Traditional coffee machines are tried and true vehicles to deliver coffee to Christians. Their worth has been proven through the crucible of decades of early Sunday morning coffee rushes in cramped church kitchens. Like gold purified by fire, they shine forth as potent aids for discipleship and Bible teaching. And, there is a clear Scriptural support for traditional coffee machines. Like individual living stones which, together, comprise the spiritual house of the body of faith (cf. 1 Pet 2:5-9), the individual granules of coffee combine together in the coffee machine to produce one delicious pot of communal coffee. Keurig cups are simply the fruit of a pagan individualistic, “Lone Ranger” mentality among Christians. The unity of our churches are at stake, brethren! Make no mistake, this disagreement over coffee is merely the symptom of a much larger problem. Ecclesiology matters.
Also, because ground coffee (preferably generic, from the grocery store) is infinitely cheaper than the fiendish Keurig cups, it allows the congregation to be a better steward of the resources our good and gracious God has given us.
Let the Keurigs and all other perversions of the truth be consigned to the flames, and let traditional coffee machines rise to reclaim their rightful place in America’s churches.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
One of the things I love about The Bee’s satire is that it often hits close to reality. I was in a church that condemned churches that served coffee and donuts as “neo-evangelical”.
"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan
One of the things I love about The Bee’s satire is that it often hits close to reality. I was in a church that condemned churches that served coffee and donuts as “neo-evangelical”.
One of the things I love about The Bee’s satire is that it often hits close to reality. I was in a church that condemned churches that served coffee and donuts as “neo-evangelical”.
We’re one of those churches that (at our main site) has an actual, installed (special plumbing & with 220-volt power) Italian-made espresso machine (three-group, with all the bells & whistles). I have to say it’s nice to get a real mocha or something else before, between, or after services. But if having basic coffee makes a church neo-evangelical, I’m assuming we’d be deemed all-out liberals……………..
By the way, the “profits” from our cafe (and with minimal overhead costs and all-volunteer labor it does turn a nice profit) go to a local inner-city ministry, which receives a check from us every quarter. (Bonus: it’s also less expensive than either the Starbucks or the Caribou that are both within a half-mile radius of the church.)
This is the Biblical way of making coffee. Far more flavor than even Keurig, and almost as cheap as the big pot that hasn’t been cleaned since the 1970s. At least consider a stovetop espresso maker!
Seriously, I’m with Larry on liking good coffee, and with Ron on this hitting too close to home.
This is the Biblical way of making coffee. Far more flavor than even Keurig, and almost as cheap as the big pot that hasn’t been cleaned since the 1970s. At least consider a stovetop espresso maker!
Seriously, I’m with Larry on liking good coffee, and with Ron on this hitting too close to home.
That’s called a French press, you papist. Trying to bring us back to Rome, eh? As for me, I Aeropress. But I don’t mind the occasional SE Asian Robusta coffee with a spoon of condensed milk. mmm…kopi susu
I despise all perversions of true coffee brewing which have been vomited forth from Satan since the year 1611. All these new innovations take away from the simplicity that is in coffee. They hinder the suffering sinner from coming to Coffee, and receiving that perfect peace, which passeth all understanding, that comes from repenting and believing in Coffee to solve all their tiredness.
People drank Coffee before Keurig, and nobody ever had any problems.
People were all on the same page.
There was a universal understanding about how Coffee was made.
Now, it has all been corrupted. Confusion reigns in our churches, in our pews, and in our homes. There is no standard anymore.
Simple coffee lovers are being led astray by this “fancy coffee,” with it’s high-brow pedigree and pretentious “pods.” The experts with the PhDs tell us this coffee is better, has a bolder flavor and is less messy. Do not be deceived, brethren - the Enemy is cunning and crafty.
Brethren, this is just another tactic the Accuser has to bring division in the ranks. First, he sows doubt and confusion. Next, he reaps his harvest of souls, bound for debt because they were drawn away from the simplicity that is in traditional coffee machines.
I say, down with the new perversions, and up with the good, old-fashioned King James … er, I mean coffee machines.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
This is the Biblical way of making coffee. Far more flavor than even Keurig, and almost as cheap as the big pot that hasn’t been cleaned since the 1970s. At least consider a stovetop espresso maker!
That’s called a French press, you papist. Trying to bring us back to Rome, eh?
As for me, I Aeropress. But I don’t mind the occasional SE Asian Robusta coffee with a spoon of condensed milk. mmm…kopi susu
Don’t you mean I’m trying to bring us back to the Babylonian captivity of the church in Avignon, Monsieur? Be good, or I will beat thee with a baguette!
Seriously, I might have to see if my family will get me an Aeropress for my birthday. I turn 30h soon. (joke for the programmers out there)
Seriously, I might have to see if my family will get me an Aeropress for my birthday. I turn 30h soon. (joke for the programmers out there)
That makes you younger than me, at 0x35 (our preferred notation).
And, appropriate to the topic, we have both Keurig and traditional coffee machines at our work, and they pay for good coffee. Good coffee makes for more productive software engineers.
Our church is very small, and we use a rented facility. Most people just end up bringing their own coffee, though we do make some for fellowship time for those who didn’t bring any (and we don’t buy the cheapest either).
You guys with your newfangled Hex notation. John the Baptist used binary, so that’s good enough for me. =)
Seriously, this is another one of those BB articles that I don’t find funny. Maybe it’s because there are too many stories out there in the real world that are just like this.
"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells
Discussion
NewOh yeah.
This needs to be the next weekly poll.
I don’t know which I favor, but when I decide, anyone not on my side will be apostate. And because he is apostate, there is no need to concern myself with unity.
John B. Lee
NewStewardship
Traditional coffee machines are tried and true vehicles to deliver coffee to Christians. Their worth has been proven through the crucible of decades of early Sunday morning coffee rushes in cramped church kitchens. Like gold purified by fire, they shine forth as potent aids for discipleship and Bible teaching. And, there is a clear Scriptural support for traditional coffee machines. Like individual living stones which, together, comprise the spiritual house of the body of faith (cf. 1 Pet 2:5-9), the individual granules of coffee combine together in the coffee machine to produce one delicious pot of communal coffee. Keurig cups are simply the fruit of a pagan individualistic, “Lone Ranger” mentality among Christians. The unity of our churches are at stake, brethren! Make no mistake, this disagreement over coffee is merely the symptom of a much larger problem. Ecclesiology matters.
Also, because ground coffee (preferably generic, from the grocery store) is infinitely cheaper than the fiendish Keurig cups, it allows the congregation to be a better steward of the resources our good and gracious God has given us.
Let the Keurigs and all other perversions of the truth be consigned to the flames, and let traditional coffee machines rise to reclaim their rightful place in America’s churches.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
NewBad Memories
One of the things I love about The Bee’s satire is that it often hits close to reality. I was in a church that condemned churches that served coffee and donuts as “neo-evangelical”.
"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan
NewRon's middle name is ...
Coffee!
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Jim's Doctrinal Statement
NewSo what does that make us?
We’re one of those churches that (at our main site) has an actual, installed (special plumbing & with 220-volt power) Italian-made espresso machine (three-group, with all the bells & whistles). I have to say it’s nice to get a real mocha or something else before, between, or after services. But if having basic coffee makes a church neo-evangelical, I’m assuming we’d be deemed all-out liberals……………..
NewLarry
Repent.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
NewI will this weekend, perhaps with a latte in hand!
By the way, the “profits” from our cafe (and with minimal overhead costs and all-volunteer labor it does turn a nice profit) go to a local inner-city ministry, which receives a check from us every quarter. (Bonus: it’s also less expensive than either the Starbucks or the Caribou that are both within a half-mile radius of the church.)
NewRepent, all of you
This is the Biblical way of making coffee. Far more flavor than even Keurig, and almost as cheap as the big pot that hasn’t been cleaned since the 1970s. At least consider a stovetop espresso maker!
Seriously, I’m with Larry on liking good coffee, and with Ron on this hitting too close to home.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
NewCoffee
My take:
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
NewProof Texts for / against
Against traditional coffee machines:
“Touch not the unclean thing” - 2 Cor 6:17
Against new coffee contraptions.
“Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.” - Prov 22:28
NewBert Perry wrote:
As for me, I Aeropress. But I don’t mind the occasional SE Asian Robusta coffee with a spoon of condensed milk. mmm…kopi susu
NewCoffee
I despise all perversions of true coffee brewing which have been vomited forth from Satan since the year 1611. All these new innovations take away from the simplicity that is in coffee. They hinder the suffering sinner from coming to Coffee, and receiving that perfect peace, which passeth all understanding, that comes from repenting and believing in Coffee to solve all their tiredness.
Brethren, this is just another tactic the Accuser has to bring division in the ranks. First, he sows doubt and confusion. Next, he reaps his harvest of souls, bound for debt because they were drawn away from the simplicity that is in traditional coffee machines.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
NewAndrew K wrote:
Don’t you mean I’m trying to bring us back to the Babylonian captivity of the church in Avignon, Monsieur? Be good, or I will beat thee with a baguette!
Seriously, I might have to see if my family will get me an Aeropress for my birthday. I turn 30h soon. (joke for the programmers out there)
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
NewHexadecimal does make the numbers seem smaller!
That makes you younger than me, at 0x35 (our preferred notation).
And, appropriate to the topic, we have both Keurig and traditional coffee machines at our work, and they pay for good coffee. Good coffee makes for more productive software engineers.
Our church is very small, and we use a rented facility. Most people just end up bringing their own coffee, though we do make some for fellowship time for those who didn’t bring any (and we don’t buy the cheapest either).
Dave Barnhart
NewMeh
You guys with your newfangled Hex notation. John the Baptist used binary, so that’s good enough for me. =)
Seriously, this is another one of those BB articles that I don’t find funny. Maybe it’s because there are too many stories out there in the real world that are just like this.
"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells