I don’t see anything really earth shattering there. Does anyone really believe Obama is evangelical? Also there is nothing in there that would identify him with Islam. That is really just an ad-hominem attack on our president. When someone tells me they are a Christian I usually ask them what church they go to so that I can know what they believe. Obama went to a Black Liberation Theology church for decades. If he believes anything exclusively it’s probably that.
I am referring to the characterization of him as being Islamic. None of those quotes suggest he is. The church he attended was just as heretical so there is no point in calling him Islamic. Also I don’t know the source but references to where he said these things would be good.
Jim, I would answer in the affirmative on all four. No where have I said that he was not antagonistic towards Christianity or that he is not wrong in his treatment of Islam. I just think that the idea of trying to paint him as a Muslim when he attended a Black Liberation church for TWO DECADES is a little off. Maybe the article is not suggesting that and I misinterpreted it.
Generally against Christians (say the Hobby Lobby issue)?
Against Christian values? Eg.
On abortion
Gay rights
I sense he has on all 4 of the above points.
Not sure how these are Christian or not. Israel is not a religious State, regardless of whether it has the same name and occupies some of the same region as the Religious State mentioned in the Bible. I would not say the Hobby Lobby issue is just an attack against Christians. There is much more at play here than a Christian issue. We could also argue whether it is okay for a company that has beliefs, and whether they can deny employees who don’t share those beliefs for a right that is provided to everyone else. While Hobby Lobby is great for Christians, it can be flipped the opposite way against us. Abortion and Gay Rights are just as much an affront to Islam as it is to Christians. So not sure what that says.
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NewI don't see anything really
I don’t see anything really earth shattering there. Does anyone really believe Obama is evangelical? Also there is nothing in there that would identify him with Islam. That is really just an ad-hominem attack on our president. When someone tells me they are a Christian I usually ask them what church they go to so that I can know what they believe. Obama went to a Black Liberation Theology church for decades. If he believes anything exclusively it’s probably that.
NewHow can direct quotes be "ad hominem"?
Re: “That is really just an ad-hominem attack on our president”
How can direct quotes be “ad hominem”?
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NewI am referring to the
I am referring to the characterization of him as being Islamic. None of those quotes suggest he is. The church he attended was just as heretical so there is no point in calling him Islamic. Also I don’t know the source but references to where he said these things would be good.
New? Josh P ... do you have any sense that he has ...
Do you have any sense that he has tilted:
I sense he has on all 4 of the above points.
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Newtilted?
Already twisted. His radical church attendance prior to election indicates that.
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NewJim, I would answer in the
Jim, I would answer in the affirmative on all four. No where have I said that he was not antagonistic towards Christianity or that he is not wrong in his treatment of Islam. I just think that the idea of trying to paint him as a Muslim when he attended a Black Liberation church for TWO DECADES is a little off. Maybe the article is not suggesting that and I misinterpreted it.
NewJim wrote:
Not sure how these are Christian or not. Israel is not a religious State, regardless of whether it has the same name and occupies some of the same region as the Religious State mentioned in the Bible. I would not say the Hobby Lobby issue is just an attack against Christians. There is much more at play here than a Christian issue. We could also argue whether it is okay for a company that has beliefs, and whether they can deny employees who don’t share those beliefs for a right that is provided to everyone else. While Hobby Lobby is great for Christians, it can be flipped the opposite way against us. Abortion and Gay Rights are just as much an affront to Islam as it is to Christians. So not sure what that says.