Not convinced at all. Seems like far to big a stretch. Seems best to take Rev 12:5 as referring to Jesus ascension, not the rapture of the church. I think far-fetched arguments like this is one of the reasons why dispensationalism has a bad name. I understand good men have argued for the rapture here. Sounds insane to me.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
I am pre-Trib but have never considered Rev 12:5 as a verse
All probably know that Roman Catholics see Mary - Queen of Heaven, in Revelation 12:1, “a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.”
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Not convinced at all. Seems like far to big a stretch. Seems best to take Rev 12:5 as referring to Jesus ascension, not the rapture of the church. I think far-fetched arguments like this is one of the reasons why dispensationalism has a bad name. I understand good men have argued for the rapture here. Sounds insane to me.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
NewMe neither
I am pre-Trib but have never considered Rev 12:5 as a verse
All probably know that Roman Catholics see Mary - Queen of Heaven, in Revelation 12:1, “a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.”
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I’ve read this view before and I think it’s plain daft.
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I am Founder of Telos Ministries, and Senior Pastor at Agape Bible Church in N. Ca.
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I hold to the pretrib rapture, but Revelation 12 has nothing to do with the rapture.
“Son” and “male” are parallels, reminiscent of Isaiah 9:6, “For unto us a child is born,unto us a son is given.”
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