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“the categories that form the basis for penal substitutionary atonement do not arise from an ‘Enlightenment worldview’ or from the interpretive biases of a Western judicial framework”

By Filings on Wed, 09/04/19
Bible, Theology & Philosophy
Atonement
Substitutionary Atonement

“It seems that Wu misunderstands what we mean, however, when we say that biblical categories must take precedence over cultural ones (and when we imply that honor / shame proponents elevate cultural categories over biblical ones).” - 9 Marks

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Joel Shaffer

NewGreat, great articles

Wed, 09/04/19

Great, great articles (including the first article https://www.9marks.org/article/nothing-to-be-ashamed-of-penal-substitut… ) that not only rejects unbiblical contexualization (minimizing penal substitutionary atonement because of the culture) but also tangibly demonstrates how one can contextualize the gospel in an honor/shame culture without compromising truth.

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Aaron Blumer

NewYes

Thu, 09/05/19

I appreciated the series, and thanks for the link to the first installment. Penal substitution seems to be continually under attack, mostly in subtle ways, but sometimes very directly. Glad to see some smart guys pushing back.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

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Dan Miller

NewProud of my son...

Mon, 12/02/19

The little guy in the avatar with me is now 10. Yesterday we had this short exchange:

Me: in LWW, when Aslan had to die, why did he have to die?
Gabe: In Edmund’s place, so Edmund wouldn’t have to die and the prophecy wouldn’t take place.
Me: and when he died, who was he dying to make a payment to?
Gabe: the deep magic.
Me: are you sure it wasn’t a payment to the white witch? Wasn’t she the one demanding the death?
Gabe: but she could only make that demand because of the deep magic.

Related . . .

Topics: Soteriology, Atonement
  • Atonement Wars, Part 3
  • The Atonement
  • What Does It Mean That Christ Ransomed Us?
  • Discover Penal Substitutionary Atonement in Hebrews
  • Analogies to Understand Christ‘s Atonement

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