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“But even after the objector has submitted his emotion to what he sees the Bible clearly teaches, there are still a few Scriptures that need explanation.” - Cripplegate
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NewIt seems Archer is contending
It seems Archer is contending that God says,
I really wish everyone would be saved – but nah, I’m just going to save a few.
Many believe the Bible teaches God desires all to be saved, but in His sovereignty, He chose to make man with a free will. Therefore, while God wants all to be saved, He does not force you to believe.
And many believe in corporate election.
David R. Brumbelow
NewExcept they are all saved
As my title to this post indicates, I believe Archer is already off track in his title to his essay on the 1 Tim 2:3-4 passage when he incorrectly assumes “Why aren’t they?” (all saved, that is).
In my pananastastic view of how salvation works, there are two things people need saved from: physical death (the legal penalty of sin) and God’s wrath (the relational consequences of unrighteousness; some label as spiritual death).
God has sovereignly chosen and worked out Christ’s atonement (his death) to universally save all people from the first issue, reconciling the world (i.e. all humanity) to God on this matter, and hence believers and unbelievers will all be resurrected (saved from the legal penalty of sin by removing that sentence and state of death); He also has sovereignly chosen and worked out Christ’s atonement (his blood) to apply particularly for cleansing those who seek reconciliation with Him, the believers, which reconciliation and cleansing heals the relationship between them, removing the wrath, and allowing God to declare believers righteous.
Both solutions worked through the atonement are needed to save mankind from sin’s effects, and both are a salvation from one of those effects. This is why Paul in 1 Tim 4:10 notes two levels of salvation, one to all mankind, one especially for believers. So in the context of this very letter, Paul already acknowledges two levels of salvation. Now with that in view, the earlier passage under discussion here in 1 Tim 2:1-7 (particularly vv.3-4 in the article) can be read in a different light that makes more sense (NKJV):
I cover this passage in more detail on pages 244-248, but the short version is this:
So the passage can be read in a very natural meaning for what it says: God desires to save all people. He plans to do so, preserving them all from the first death, resurrecting them to be unable to so die again. And no matter which state of belief, all will come to know the truth of what God did for them, and all will bow their knees.
Scott Smith, Ph.D.
The goal now, the destiny to come, holiness like God—
Gen 1:27, Lev 19:2, 1 Pet 1:15-16