By TylerR on
Maranatha Baptist University
Cederholm
Church and Biblical History

Maranatha: “With the Cedarholm generation nearly gone, it is time their story is told.” Find more info and order the book here or here.

Discussion

Fri, 02/01/19

As I said, I don’t particularly care about who is and who isn’t a villain. I just don’t find re-hashes of fratricidal Baptist fundamentalist wars edifying. I find them depressing and demoralizing. As I also said, I’ll buy and read the book sometime this year. I hope it is edifying. To the extent it avoids chronicling the cannibalistic Baptist fundy wars of the mid-20th century, I’ll enjoy it.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Fri, 02/01/19

after reading the book, I can say Dr. Oats doesn’t rehash the fights. Its focus is on the Cedarholms and their life of ministry. It mentions what’s going on around them but not to rehash the controversy. More in my report later.

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Fri, 02/01/19

Good to know!

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Sun, 03/31/19

From the book, I learned the proximate cause of the Cedarholm\Clearwaters rift was the campusing of a pair of male students. The parents appealed to friends on Pillsbury’s Board. The board members went to Clearwaters for a reversal. Cedarholm said no. Dr. Oats makes the point that Dr. Cedarholm had never worked “for” anybody. So, we’re off to the races.

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Sun, 03/31/19

it begins …

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Sun, 03/31/19

It ended thirty + years ago. I don’t know where the animus towards Dr. C comes from. In my four years of Chapel at MBBC (77-81), I can only remember him speaking negatively about four men, Jerry Falwell and the Pseudo-Fundamentalists, Jack van Impe, Bill Gothard and his Basic Youth stuff, and Billy Graham.

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Sun, 03/31/19

I have no animus! I know nothing about the guy.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Mon, 04/01/19

read the book and learn. FWIW, I was Dr. C’s driver when I was in school. So, I knew him a little better than most. It’s just that your posts have had a negative tinge to them.

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Mon, 04/01/19

I plan to read the book. I’m the editor who posted this filing. As I said above, to the extent it avoids chronicling the fratricidal fundy wars of yesteryear and avoiding hagiography, I will enjoy it very much.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Thu, 04/04/19

[Rob Fall]

From the book, I learned the proximate cause of the Cedarholm\Clearwaters rift was the campusing of a pair of male students. The parents appealed to friends on Pillsbury’s Board. The board members went to Clearwaters for a reversal. Cedarholm said no. Dr. Oats makes the point that Dr. Cedarholm had never worked “for” anybody. So, we’re off to the races.

Yeah, that’s pretty much how my dad described it to me. He was at Pills when it all went down and found himself following Dr. C to Wttn that fall. He told me the story a few years back, and I’m looking forward to reading more about the Cedarholms when I get a chance to pick up the book.

Fri, 04/05/19

Regretfully, the full story really didn’t make it out into general circulation. I look at is as the same way Steve Jobs was forced from Apple back in the day. All I knew as a Californian was Pillsbury never played MBBC in any varsity sport.

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Rob Fall wrote:

From the book, I learned the proximate cause of the Cedarholm\Clearwaters rift was the campusing of a pair of male students. The parents appealed to friends on Pillsbury’s Board. The board members went to Clearwaters for a reversal. Cedarholm said no. Dr. Oats makes the point that Dr. Cedarholm had never worked “for” anybody. So, we’re off to the races.

Yeah, that’s pretty much how my dad described it to me. He was at Pills when it all went down and found himself following Dr. C to Wttn that fall. He told me the story a few years back, and I’m looking forward to reading more about the Cedarholms when I get a chance to pick up the book.

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Mon, 12/09/19

bump bump

Has anybody read the book yet?

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Mon, 12/09/19

Sorry! I finished it this past summer. I read it in one day. I thought it was an excellent book to see an “insider’s” perspective on the CBA splits. In that respect, it complements Bauder and Delnay’s book. The biography itself is hagiographic, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Nobody will mistake it for an unbiased work. It was an enjoyable read, as long as you know what you’re getting.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.

Mon, 12/09/19

[Rob Fall]

read the book and learn. FWIW, I was Dr. C’s driver when I was in school. So, I knew him a little better than most. It’s just that your posts have had a negative tinge to them.

Why did Dr. C need a driver?

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Mon, 12/09/19

There you go again …

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.