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"Science will win because it works"

By Filings on Mon, 06/07/10
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“There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority, [and ] science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win because it works.” Stephen Hawking ABC News

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Aaron Blumer

NewPresuppositions

Mon, 06/07/10
Can you identify Hawking’s presuppositions?

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Barry L.

NewIs this the same guy who says

Tue, 06/08/10

Is this the same guy who says we should not try to contact aliens because they will destroy us?
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ChrisC

Newunfortunate choice of words

Tue, 06/08/10
unfortunate choice of words:
[ABC / Ki Mae Heussner] Celebrated physicist Stephen Hawking knows more about the universe than almost any other person ever to walk the planet, but some answers still escape even him.
(probably should have been wheel)
[Barry L.] Is this the same guy who says we should not try to contact aliens because they will destroy us?
yes. it’s later in the same interview / article. anyway, all sorts of people disagree with hawking on this point.

look, every once in a while hawking says something crazy and attention-getting like: “Not only does God definitely play dice, but He sometimes confuses us by throwing them where they can’t be seen.” (from ” http://www.hawking.org.uk/index.php/lectures/64] Does God Play Dice? “) hawking is a brilliant theoretical physicist, but no one should expect him to have all the right answers about everything.
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Aaron Blumer

NewNice thing about math

Tue, 06/08/10
People can always check mathematics and see if it works or not. What math can’t do, though, is tell us what it Means or how it applies to the big questions of who we are, how we got here, where we’re going, right and wrong.
It’s true that “religion is based on authority” but what Hawking doesn’t see is that science is also based on authority. This is the grand deception of unbelieving science: that there is actually some way to escape “authority.” In the case of unbelieving (as in not believing Christianity and Scripture) science, the authority is some combination of the physical senses and/or reason. But science is unable to tell us why we ought to believe what we observe or why what we see should be considered more real than what we don’t, etc.
So it too begins with assumptions that it takes completely on faith.

I would argue that when you remove some kind of revealed framework (a set of answers to the ultimate questions) for interpreting what we observe, what you have done is make science your religion. From that angle, Hawking’s observation about authority is nonsense because it’s predicated on the idea that science and religion are two different things. But for the doggedly “nonreligious,” science is religion. Human beings are just not capable of being non-religious.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

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