Fairhaven Baptists under scrutiny by CNN for child abuse

excerpts from a controverisal sermon by Voegtlin:

http://mildlyinsightful.com/2011/08/20/spiritual-spanking-by-roger-voeg…

With the “us” vs. “them” mentality that these kinds of ministries thrive on, this scrutiny by CNN is well-welcomed.

How long will Fundamentalists keep their head in the sand while people are hurting and the name of Christ is drug through the mud? First it was Chuck Phelps and I have written key fundamentalists asking why they are not taking a stand against him when he refuses to apologize for the way he hurt people, and the way he handled the situation. It is not Biblical to refuse to apologize and say I’m sorry when you hurt another brother or sister. Next is the Hez House and now this.

I just started a thread on BJU’s new faculty policy. They require faculty/staff to report suspicions of sexual abuse to a University supervisor who will then take the responsibility of reporting to authorities. Bad, bad policy. Illegal actually.

9-24-2011

Please keep into account the fact that the girl was not involved in a force-able rape situation, but rather an immoral adulterous relationship. She agreed to go before the church to ask forgiveness

(I thought the jury coming back charging Ernie Willis of 2 counts of rape and Trinity admitting it was wrong and inhumane to bring her before the church would put this to rest :o( guess not)

I think it is time for BJU to write a new book and don’t title it House in the Sand but Chuck in the Sand

[Dan Frank] I just started a thread on BJU’s new faculty policy. They require faculty/staff to report suspicions of sexual abuse to a University supervisor who will then take the responsibility of reporting to authorities. Bad, bad policy. Illegal actually.

That would depend entirely on state law. The state may not require any report if the parties are not minors.

The question is does the policy apply to the Academy or the University? If to the University, then we’re dealing with legal adults, not minors.

[Paul J. Scharf]

[Dan Frank] I just started a thread on BJU’s new faculty policy. They require faculty/staff to report suspicions of sexual abuse to a University supervisor who will then take the responsibility of reporting to authorities. Bad, bad policy. Illegal actually.

That would depend entirely on state law. The state may not require any report if the parties are not minors.

[Rob Fall] The question is does the policy apply to the Academy or the University? If to the University, then we’re dealing with legal adults, not minors.

[Paul J. Scharf]

[Dan Frank] I just started a thread on BJU’s new faculty policy. They require faculty/staff to report suspicions of sexual abuse to a University supervisor who will then take the responsibility of reporting to authorities. Bad, bad policy. Illegal actually.

That would depend entirely on state law. The state may not require any report if the parties are not minors.

More so, yes, but not always. My sister-in-law was only 16 when she went to BJ. Many others are still only 17 when they arrive.

The under 18 University students. I agree the appropriate state child abuse reporting laws would be apply to them. Any faculty, staff, or student who puts university policy ahead of state laws on this area does so at their peril.

[Paul J. Scharf]

[Dan Frank] I just started a thread on BJU’s new faculty policy. They require faculty/staff to report suspicions of sexual abuse to a University supervisor who will then take the responsibility of reporting to authorities. Bad, bad policy. Illegal actually.

That would depend entirely on state law. The state may not require any report if the parties are not minors.

Just FYI, BJU/BJA faculty/staff are governed by the same faculty/staff handbook. So there are a very large number of minors involved in the policy in question.

…or did you run to blogs first.

If you did ask them, what was their answer?

Barry, your questions are answered in the thread I started on the topic.