Skip to main content
SHARPER IRON
“As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.” (Proverbs 27:17)
  • About
    • About Sharper Iron
    • Doctrinal Statement
    • Contact
    • Search
  • Forum
    • Forum Home
    • Comment Guidelines
    • Search
  • Account
    • Log in
    • Register

What Do You Believe About Ezekiel's Dry Bones Vision? Please choose an option closest to your view & explain caveats

By Ed Vasicek on Fri, 12/18/09
Forum category
Bible, Theology & Philosophy
Featured Poll

Poll Results

What Do You Believe About Ezekiel’s Dry Bones Vision? Please choose an option closest to your view & explain caveats

It only predicts the revival and regeneration of end time Israel Votes: 8
It only predicts the resurrection of the believer Votes: 0
It predicts both the establishment of end time Israel and the resurrection of the believer Votes: 2
It is general and merely demonstrates God’s power to wrap up history Votes: 0
It predicts the church age Votes: 1
It predicts the current state of Israel (bones) awaiting regeneration Votes: 0
Other or none of the above Votes: 1

(Migrated poll)

N/A
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 0

Discussion

User image
Jay

NewText

Mon, 12/21/09
The Valley of Dry Bones

37:1 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and he brought me out in the Spirit of the Lord and set me down in the middle of the valley; it was full of bones. 2 And he led me around among them, and behold, there were very many on the surface of the valley, and behold, they were very dry. 3 And he said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” And I answered, “O Lord God, you know.” 4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the Lord. 5 Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live, and you shall know that I am the Lord.”

7 So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I prophesied, there was a sound, and behold, a rattling, and the bones came together, bone to its bone. 8 And I looked, and behold, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them. But there was no breath in them. 9 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, Thus says the Lord God: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live.” 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army.

11 Then he said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, ‘Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are indeed cut off.’ 12 Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will open your graves and raise you from your graves, O my people. And I will bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And you shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people. 14 And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I am the Lord; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the Lord.”
I don’t see how anyone can make this point to the NT resurrection of believers without pulling it astray.

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

User image
Matthew J

NewCaveat

Mon, 12/21/09
I believe the context implies God’s dealing with Israel, as the broader context of Ezekiel has little to do with the NT, however, I believe that there isa clear principle here of God making what is dead alive again. I think this could also be applied in spiritual regeneration of salvation. Unless God’s Spirit (breath) breathes upon a person, they are yet dead in their sins. But when God’s spirit revives a person, they are alive unto God. So I see it as double, mostly about Israel’s regeneration and restoration, but also about God’s power and delight in general in making dead men live again spiritually.

www.dgministry.com www.christianjoe.graceutah.com

Profile picture for user Ed Vasicek
Ed Vasicek

NewJay C wrote: Quote: The

Mon, 12/21/09
[Jay C]
The Valley of Dry Bones

11 Then he said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, ‘Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are indeed cut off.’ 12 Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will open your graves and raise you from your graves, O my people. And I will bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And you shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people. 14 And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I am the Lord; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the Lord.”
I don’t see how anyone can make this point to the NT resurrection of believers without pulling it astray.
I see both. The primary teaching is about Israel, but I believe Jesus teaches a midrash from passage in John 5:28-29:
“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.
There are actually two “bone” illustrations; one is of bones scattered, the other of graves opening. Although the primary teaching is that God will revive Israel, there might be a double-meaning. I say “might,” so I am not saying this is certain. At bare minimum, Jesus is alluding to the same imagery.

"The Midrash Detective"

User image
Jay

NewEd Vasicek wrote: There are

Mon, 12/28/09
[Ed Vasicek] There are actually two “bone” illustrations; one is of bones scattered, the other of graves opening. Although the primary teaching is that God will revive Israel, there might be a double-meaning. I say “might,” so I am not saying this is certain. At bare minimum, Jesus is alluding to the same imagery.
Ed-

Interesting - I’ve never heard these two passages connected together before. I’ll look at it some more, but I’m not as convinced that Jesus is alluding to the Ezekiel passage as you are. To me, the emphasis of this passage [the John one] is that Jesus is God. I think that if Jesus were referring to Ezekiel, then he would not refer to the ‘tombs’ [v. 28] , but rather the bones.

Jerry, I’m assuming that you’re a Covenant theologian, based on what you wrote. Is that correct?

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

User image
Jay

NewNevermind

Mon, 12/28/09
I just realized that I wasn’t paying attention to the latter part of the Ezekiel passage…too focused on v. 1-10, so please disregard that post. Sorry ‘bout that!

"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells

Forum Links

  • About Sharper Iron
  • Comment Guidelines
  • Doctrinal Statement

Latest Forum Posts

  • Where does the appropriate use of the term "evangelical," (denominationally) as used in the United States, begin? (Not the same as asking "who is saved")
  • An ethical question: How far can pastors go (as a routine) with AI/Internet/published sermons in preparing their own messages?
  • "Slavery, Partiality, and Sinful Worship and Entertainment"
  • How common is gambling among conservative evangelicals?
  • Do you believe Christians in Iran will be better off after the war?

Pagination

  • Page 1
  • Next page

… not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing.

(NKJV, 1 Peter 3:9)

Footer

  • About
  • Contact
  • Search
  • Forum

Since 2005

Image
2005 SI Logo Image