Poll Results
When your congregation recites/prays the Lord’s Prayer, which version?
We include “for thine (yours) is the kingdom…” Votes: 5
We exclude “for thine is the kingdom…” Votes: 0
Sometimes one, sometimes another Votes: 0
We never recite the Lord’s Prayer Votes: 9
Other Votes: 0
Discussion
NewWe use long version
Even though we do not use the KJV, we use the longer version. Roman Catholics add the longer ending as a response (this began in the late 1960’s).
Textually, the manuscripts most of us non-KJV people prefer do not contain the longer ending. Some think the early church used I Chronicles 29:11 as a responsive refrain, and that it was later added on.
I believe that the Lord’s Prayer is an abbreviation of the Amidah (for David Bivin’s intro and comments, click here), and, while the longer ending does fit, I am suspicious of it as original. But since it is a paraphrase of an OT passage, I have no trouble with it at all.
How do you pray the Lord’s Prayer? Any comments on the Lord’s Prayer are fair game.
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NewKJV vs ESV
I wrote a seminary paper on the Lord’s Prayer. The professor was not happy I used the ESV, which excludes the last bit - “for thine is the kingdom …”
Different translations sometimes catch us by surprise, if we’re used to seeing a verse a particular way.
Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government.
NewLord's Prayer
I’m thinking of doing two series, the Beatitudes and The Lord’s Prayer. If I preach them I want to use the Rose Publishing PowerPoint presentations. Rose went with the longer ending. I still use the NASB 1995 in the pulpit, and this version prints the longer ending in brackets. I really have no opinion on the shorter vs. longer endings and also the Luke 11 version of it. Guess that makes me suspect in certain quarters, doesn’t it? ;)
Newjimfrank wrote: I'm thinking
Well, Jim, I trust you!
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