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Judge doesn't buy Schaap's “blaming the victim" argument

By sifilings on Wed, 08/27/14
Church & Ministry
Jack Schaap

Judge rejects Schaap bid for sentencing adjustment in sex case

“This court repeatedly asked Schaap if he understood the possible sentence he could receive was 10 years in jail and that the maximum was life imprisonment, and Schaap confirmed he understood.”

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Jim

NewMy wish

Wed, 08/27/14

My wish: The last news of Schaap until he is released in 2025

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Larry Nelson

NewFolk wisdom from the '70's:

Wed, 08/27/14

“Don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time…”

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Jim

NewWhere he is ... and how long

Wed, 08/27/14
  • Release Date: 04/20/2023
  • Inmate ID: 12409-027
  • Location: Ashland FCI

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Bert Perry

NewMy wish....

Wed, 08/27/14

…..is that we all will have an eye out for what it means when a pastor begins behaving badly, as in Schaap’s “polishing the shaft” sermon.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

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Jim

NewYou mean don't be like these ...

Wed, 08/27/14

[Bert Perry]

…..is that we all will have an eye out for what it means when a pastor begins behaving badly, as in Schaap’s “polishing the shaft” sermon.

You mean don’t be like these sycophants and nincompoops looking on in awe …

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Larry Nelson

NewAs if it wasn't bizarre enough:

Thu, 08/28/14

Gail Riplinger decided she’d take a few swings at Schaap:

“Offering an outside opinion on the matter, Gail Riplinger, a noted religious author, scholar and lecturer, wrote a letter to Lozano disputing Schaap’s claim he did not have proper legal counsel. She claimed Schaap had free legal advice at his disposal through the Christian Law Association, and personally knew Schaap’s had a close association with some members of its legal staff.

“I must conclude that Jack Schaap likely has more close personal friends who are lawyers than anyone who has ever appeared before you as a defendant,” Riplinger wrote. “No doubt they were all just a phone call away to clarify any questions he may have had. Most of us have not had the privilege of having a cadre of close friends who are attorneys, but Schaap certainly has many such close associations.”

Riplinger adds that given Schaap’s level of literacy — noting numerous books authored by him for sale on Amazon.com, as well as his (doctorate) level of education — (his) “assertion that he could not understand the words regarding the sentencing seems preposterous.”

- http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/judge-denies-schaap-s-r…

Note how she’s described as a “noted religious author, scholar and lecturer” (!!!). Schaap’s (phony) doctorate also came up…

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Bert Perry

NewJim:  :^)  I hope that if I

Thu, 08/28/14

Jim: :^) I hope that if I am ever unfortunate enough to hear a sermon that bad, I will walk out or otherwise display an unmistakable contempt for the abomination being transformed into sound.

Larry; it’s worth noting that it’s not a phony doctorate, but an honorary one that was predictable based on his affiliations. Agreed 100% that it is meaningless due to that, though.

But regarding the request for a review of the sentence, it seems to fit that a man infamous for twisting words to suit his own ends would view the judge’s clear words on his mandatory sentence as something he could twist. As Jim notes, hopefully he won’t succeed and we won’t hear about him much for another ten years.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

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Ron Bean

NewConversion Needed!

Thu, 08/28/14

Jack Schaap is an unconverted man who needs Jesus Christ to open his eyes to his sin and self-deception.

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

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JC

NewI would add

Sun, 08/31/14

… Whether Schaap is consciously aware of it or not, he actually a wolf and the ‘ministry’ of Hyles Anderson/FBC has been in the service of Satan.

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Jim

NewMy view ... this part an overstatement

Sun, 08/31/14

[JC]

… Whether Schaap is consciously aware of it or not, he actually a wolf and the ‘ministry’ of Hyles Anderson/FBC has been in the service of Satan.

My view … the underlined a gross overstatement

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NewJim wrote:

Sun, 08/31/14

[Jim]

JC wrote:

… Whether Schaap is consciously aware of it or not, he actually a wolf and the ‘ministry’ of Hyles Anderson/FBC has been in the service of Satan.

My view … the underlined a gross overstatement

Maybe, maybe not. Two things are worth noting

1. Hyles Anderson/FBC have a pattern of putting wolves in the pulpit. Jack Hyles and Jack Schaap.

2. The ministry of Hyles Anderson/FBC was built on the foundation of personality - to the point where they erect idolatrous statues of their leaders. They have yet to tear them down. I don’t think it is a stretch to write off the whole ministry as leading people astray.

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Jim

NewOn Hylesolatry

Sun, 08/31/14

[JC]

2. The ministry of Hyles Anderson/FBC was built on the foundation of personality - to the point where they erect idolatrous statues of their leaders. They have yet to tear them down. I don’t think it is a stretch to write off the whole ministry as leading people astray.

Agreed

See my previous comments on the infamous Hyles’ statue

http://sharperiron.org/comment/53616#comment-53616

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  • Matt Olson: "it is more hurtful than we realize. There is no getting around it. It is difficult to comprehend [the] carnage"
  • "He was under a tremendous amount of stress such as anyone who runs an international ministry, however this does not excuse his behavior"
  • Prosecutors request delay of Schaap's sentencing to determine victim restitution
  • Voyle Glover's Warning letter to Schaap: "I saw the first Philistine Scout on the beach the other day ... Judgment is on the way, Jack"
  • Jack Schaap 'erased' from Hyles-Anderson history

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