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Evangelical Support of Trump

“Kris is not the only one to prophesy a Trump victory. In October, Trump attended the International Church of Las Vegas, where the church’s senior pastor, Denise Goulet, spoke a word of prophecy over him during the worship service. ‘At 4.30 (am), the Lord said to me, “I am going to give your president a second wind.“ This has 3 meanings. A win – you will be the president again.’” - MCD

Discussion

Tue, 11/10/20

The silly games evangelicals play with Scripture to justify stupidity like this… I love Grudem’s Systematic Theology, but he provides cover for foolishness such as this.

As my good friend Flavor Flav says, “Don’t believe the hype.”

Tue, 11/10/20

Isn’t the OT penalty for false prophecy….death? I’m not a complete cessationist, and I’m not seriously endorsing killing this guy, but there is a point where I’d guess most pentacostals and charismatics would come around a lot closer to a cessationist point of view if those who prophecied falsely (or falsely “spoke in tongues”, etc..) were punished appropriately. There is a very real issue if people are putting false words into God’s mouth, in effect.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Tue, 11/10/20

[Bert Perry]

Isn’t the OT penalty for false prophecy….death? I’m not a complete cessationist, and I’m not seriously endorsing killing this guy, but there is a point where I’d guess most pentacostals and charismatics would come around a lot closer to a cessationist point of view if those who prophecied falsely (or falsely “spoke in tongues”, etc..) were punished appropriately. There is a very real issue if people are putting false words into God’s mouth, in effect.

If you watch the guy’s video, he assures everyone he’s not a false prophet because this is the first mistaken prophecy he’s made in 14 years of ministry.

Tue, 11/10/20

…at least he apologized, but in his apology really doesn’t seem to grasp the significance of what he did. Once or a thousand times, he’s misrepresented God before his church and arguably the nation. God’s not a .250 or even .999 hitter, He bats 1.000.

Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.

Tue, 11/10/20

@T. Howard: Maybe your reference to “Evangelicals” was limited to Grudem and Sovereign Grace and such. For the record, I’m not sure Bethel should qualify as “Evangelical.”

Michael Osborne
Philadelphia, PA